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    ricky2403
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    Thoughts about how this election is going to go?

    Greens are gonna push Labor over the line imoo.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/08/11/2980455.htm

    Opposition Leader Tony Abbott emerged from last night’s Rooty Hill RSL forum as the people’s choice, with an exit poll showing audience members favouring him over Prime Minister Julia Gillard.

    The audience awarded Mr Abbott the win in last night’s event, with the Opposition Leader picking up 71 votes compared to Ms Gillard’s 59 in a gaming chip exit poll.

    While neither leader tripped up, there were a few curly questions from the crowd of 200 chosen by a polling company.

    The organisers of the forum, however, say they have been accused of bias in selecting the crowd, namely because one question to Mr Abbott was from the son of a former Liberal MP.

    In her opening address, Ms Gillard – who spoke first – told the audience she was about the economy and keeping people in jobs. It was a sentiment she repeated throughout the forum.

    “Keeping the economy strong, I think that’s at the centre of everything,” she said.

    “I do not believe Mr Abbott has an economic plan to keep our economy strong.”

    Mr Abbott’s opening statement, on the other hand, focused on his main election messages of government debt, the mining tax and asylum seekers.

    “I want to end the waste, I want to pay back the debt, I want to stop the big new taxes and I want to stop the boats,” he said.

    “We are a great country, we are a great people. We have been let down by a government.

    “I want to restore good and competent and prudent government which respects the citizens of this country and above all else respects the taxpayer dollar. I know how hard you work for every dollar you have.”

    Promises, promises

    Many of the questions directed towards Ms Gillard kept coming back to Labor’s integrity and the Government’s failure to deliver on promises.

    Even Ms Gillard’s latest and biggest promise of this election campaign – $2.1 billion to fix rail services in the key election battleground of western Sydney – was doubted.

    “How can we trust you that you won’t break anymore of these promises?,” one voter said to applause from the audience.

    But Ms Gillard wanted that trust: “Can I assure you of this and I can guarantee you of this: We will make sure that the work starts and the federal money will flow as milestones happen in the construction.”

    Ms Gillard copped further criticism from one voter about shelving the emissions trading scheme.

    “You were the one who said ‘can it Kev’,” the man said.

    But Ms Gillard reaffirmed voters that she will take action on climate change.

    “I am still determined, despite Mr Abbott knocking the consensus way, that we have a carbon pollution reduction scheme and a limit on carbon pollution,” he said.

    In wrapping up, Ms Gillard told the voters this election was about them.

    “This is about about your choice – who you want to run the country,” she said.

    “You’ll be thinking about the past, you’ll be thinking about the future.”

    And the past certainly haunted Ms Gillard at Rooty Hill – she was again quizzed about about the ousting of former prime minister Kevin Rudd.

    The first question of the night got straight to the topic: it was about whether Ms Gillard will reward Labor powerbrokers Mark Arbib and Bill Shorten for putting her in the top job.

    Ms Gillard reiterated that the Rudd government had “lost its way”, which led to the leadership spill in June.

    “We all make judgments in our lives. I made a judgment and I stand by it. There is no-one who organised this. There is no-one who is going to be rewarded,” Ms Gillard said.

    Mr Abbott took the opportunity to share his “dismay at the way Kevin Rudd was treated”.

    “He was chosen by the people and he should have faced the people’s judgement,” Mr Abbott said.

    “I would’ve argued that they should have got rid of him. Nevertheless, it should have been the people that made that decision, not the faction leaders.”

    Abbott’s past

    But Mr Abbott’s past also resurfaced; he was questioned about breaking his “rock solid, iron clad guarantee” on the Medicare safety net as health minister in the Howard government.

    “That was probably the worst moment of my political life because I had made that commitment as the health minister in good faith pre-election,” he said.

    “And the truth is I was overridden by my colleagues in Cabinet and I had the option of resigning and causing a crisis or swallowing the disappointment.

    “But if I’m the prime minister, I don’t get overridden by my Cabinet colleagues so I wouldn’t be in the situation this time the way I was then.”

    But later in the forum, he said that PMs could get outvoted in the Cabinet process.

    “Prime ministers do get outvoted occasionally … there are famous stories of premiers and prime ministers announcing to their colleagues that that decision has been carried, one vote to 19 and so on, but you can’t do that very often,” he said.

    Broadband plan

    The voters also brought up the Coalition’s broadband policy and questioned its plan to scrap the Government’s National Broadband Network (NBN) if elected.

    But Mr Abbott stood firm on his technology.

    “I think that the market is good but something as important as broadband which is I suppose to this century what the railways were to the 19th century, it does require significant government involvement,” he said.

    “It needs to be intelligent involvement though and not wasteful involvement.”

    But a topic Ms Gillard would not budge on was Labor’s stance on same-sex marriage.

    “I want to be able to say to that woman that I love: ‘will you marry me, not will you civil union me?’,” one voter asked Ms Gillard.

    Ms Gillard made the Government’s position clear in her answer.

    “I know saying that is not going to please you because you’d like to see something different happen,” she said.

    “But what we have done as a government is we have moved across the area of federal legislation to equalise treatment for same-sex couples.”

    After the forum both leaders were upbeat about their performances.

    “I think it was a good audience, a fair audience – I think they asked good questions,” Mr Abbott said.

    And despite losing the audience poll, Ms Gillard said she enjoyed the night.

    “It was really good discussion,” she said.

    #726962

    sonic reducer
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    how can anyone think the coalitions plans for broadband are good?

    did they build the fucking harbour bridge with 2 lanes because that is all they needed at the time? how fucking stupid

    apart from being a churchy fuckhead and pandering to racists – this is utterly ridiculous

    sorry for the yelling, that wingnut makes me so mad

    #726963

    box is a punish
    Participant

    tony abbott number one!

    #726964

    ricky2403
    Participant

    @sonic reducer wrote:

    how can anyone think the coalitions plans for broadband are good?

    did they build the fucking harbour bridge with 2 lanes because that is all they needed at the time? how fucking stupid

    apart from being a churchy fuckhead and pandering to racists – this is utterly ridiculous

    sorry for the yelling, that wingnut makes me so mad

    Yeah but mate! Julia Gillard is a two faced, back stabbing, red nutted cunt!

    #726965

    fez259
    Participant

    This is a bad thread.

    #726966

    travn8r1990
    Member

    This didn’t help me decide who i’m going to vote for :(

    #726967

    Slaaron
    Member

    @ricky2403 wrote:

    @sonic reducer wrote:
    how can anyone think the coalitions plans for broadband are good?

    did they build the fucking harbour bridge with 2 lanes because that is all they needed at the time? how fucking stupid

    apart from being a churchy fuckhead and pandering to racists – this is utterly ridiculous

    sorry for the yelling, that wingnut makes me so mad

    Yeah but mate! Julia Gillard is a two faced, back stabbing, red nutted cunt!

    She is a pollie, of course she is. They all are.

    #726968

    snarez
    Member

    @box is a punish wrote:

    tony abbott number one!

    This is not a sporting event Emily. Abbott is a sexist, racist homophobe. Derp. (not sure about the last bit but I think it’s a fairly safe bet)

    #726969

    box is a punish
    Participant

    liberal all the way!

    #726970

    meaks
    Participant

    @travn8r1990 wrote:

    This didn’t help me decide who i’m going to vote for :(

    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-election/vote-a-matic/index.html

    this may help some people out…givitago!

    #726971

    snarez
    Member

    THOSE CLOWNS IN CONGRESS DID IT AGAIN. WHAT A BUNCH OF CLOWNS.

    #726972

    sonic reducer
    Participant

    don’t blame me, i voted for kodos

    #726973

    box is a punish
    Participant

    people who vote greens are retarded.

    #726974

    snarez
    Member

    People who make blanket statements without any justification and sound like they’re cheering for their local sports team when weighing in on political discussions are retarded.

    Please Emily, contribute something insightful or at least intelligent.

    Also..

    #726975

    Captain Funk
    Participant

    Colour me retarded then.

    #726976

    fez259
    Participant

    @snarez wrote:

    @box is a punish wrote:
    tony abbott number one!

    This is not a sporting event Emily. Abbott is a sexist, racist homophobe. Derp. (not sure about the last bit but I think it’s a fairly safe bet)

    I stand for all of these things. If you’re a black lesbian, stay the hell away from my family!

    #726977

    sonic reducer
    Participant

    wipe the drool from my face and give me my de-mountable classroom then

    #726978

    box is a punish
    Participant

    i don’t believe in some of the stuff greens stand for.

    liberal run a better australia.

    i know abbott isn’t the smartest choice for the face of the libs given how right winged he is but that’s not enough for me to switch my vote to parties i don’t agree with.

    the degree of posting on a punk/hardcore internet forum is directly proportional to how intelligent someone is.

    #726979

    Moshiach
    Moderator

    @box is a punish wrote:

    people who vote greens are retarded.

    This is so rich

    #726980

    sonic reducer
    Participant

    @box is a punish wrote:

    i don’t believe in some of the stuff greens stand for.

    liberal run a better australia.

    i know abbott isn’t the smartest choice for the face of the libs given how right winged he is but that’s not enough for me to switch my vote to parties i don’t agree with.

    the degree of posting on a punk/hardcore internet forum is directly proportional to how intelligent someone is.

    Liberal “run a better australia” how so exactly – don’t say economic management – because Howard and Costello reaped the rewards of what keating had set into place

    what else have they done exactly – keeping us safe – the liberals have made australia a more dangerous place to be as a result of our involvement in unjust wars

    what stuff don’t you believe in re: the greens?

    not having a go, just interested

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